Out of a pang of conscience (actually these targets are not really worth my time) I removed my previous troll report on this awesome piece of internet gossip, so as to watch further comments roll in …. and, lo , they have, and Mr Pinchy and lackeys have taken a ROYAL ASS KICKIN by a Mr Harlan Wallner. This guy rocks!
Daniel Pinchy, obviously seriously sweating by now, hating himself and wanting a good beating, wrote:
He asked for it, and Mr Wallner took him up on it, in a way that can hardly be bettered. Therefore i’m removing my own attacks on this blog and simply referring you to the big heart of Mr Wallner.
I am amazed the comment was not deleted, so here it is in its entirety in case it does:
To Daniel, Jonathan, and Ken
Submitted by Harlan Wallner on Tue, 03/02/2010 – 12:09.
I for one, am torn. On the one hand, I’m pretty well shocked with the responses of Daniel, mostly, and Ken, and Jonathan a little less so but still certainly to an extent. You three have been petty, childish, arrogant, and unwilling to admit fault—even if your only fault was an incredible arrogance (which, Daniel, I feel was probably a HUGE factor in the financial fallout which you claim no fault in, and yes, I have read all your comments on the matter, and still find your behavior disgusting).
I’m saddened, disgusted, ashamed, and angry with you three. Much more so than I am with Rob, for the very reason Daniel was so clear to point out. “He’s only a year into HIS transformational process”. So he gets a fucking pass, you dick. You can’t blame him if he’s still learning and growing. You, on the other hand, should know better. You, by proxy of the websites you are running, claim to be this evolved being, more in touch with reality, and on this thread you have been running around like a whiny, finger-pointing tattle tale—”He started it!!” “I didn’t do anything wrong, he did!!”
He did do something wrong. Duh, he’s human. You have to forgive that. If you’re angry that he’s only been in his transformational process for a year, you should be angry at yourself. Since you appear to consider him a child in this process, you should have patience with him as you would with a child. For fuck’s sake, someone has to be the adult around here. So far the only mature voices seem to have been many of the readers who have weighed in. Yes indeed, this is not a journey you should be leading people on, moreso because you’re nowhere near ready yourselves.
But the issues are far deeper than that, and they have touched my soul as well. I wouldn’t be writing in this manner, so bothered in this manner, if I wasn’t personally dealing with some of the same problems personally. It seems to me that there are some pretty serious and deep self worth issues here. Daniel, you have been so quick to point out that Rob’s basic (and esentially only) personal value is his huge bank account, which he should be sharing with you to reward you for all this important work you are doing, while implying that you are a far more worthy human being because you are Daniel Pinchbeck and are doing the work you do. You are giving yourself value and love because of this work, and when it’s threatened or rejected you are taking that as a personal threat and rejection, and going into super-arrogant self defense mode. Well, that’s my psychoanalytic interpretation, which I’m entitled to share to since you did a horrendously rude little psychoanalysis on why Rob did what he did. I’m possibly as off as you were, but how’s it feel? I was so ashamed of and for you when I read what you said about Rob in that ‘ok, here’s what really happened’ piece you wrote after Rob lifted the threat of a lawsuit. If you truly continue to feel as though you’ve done nothing wrong, I suggest you go back and reread all of your posts. You are bitter, spiteful, and egotistical, and for someone who claims to be doing transformational work, that’s about as wrong as it gets. And here I am putting you down. Why? To build myself up? Perhaps.
I’m going through a similar struggle right now, where I’m giving what I feel to be the gifts I’m intended to be giving and meeting rejection and frustration, and am taking it personally. But as such I’m gaining a lot from your public humiliation. It’s almost a sacrificial humiliation, you’re taking it for we who are also struggling with true self love so that we may be humbled by your display. If that is the intention of this thread, it is brilliant. If it’s not, then it’s still a brilliant outcome, and I’m torn. Torn because I am gaining so much from this on the one hand, and yet still so disgusted with you on the other. It is also, I believe, going to teach me forgiveness.
But not yet.
Rob made some mistakes, sure. But in reading through this thread I honestly feel that his mistakes are far more forgivable than yours are, and I’ll probably be taking you up on your offer to stop frequenting the site. At least Rob is capable of admitting his own inadequacies and is still able to see the larger picture. Why was he, the “only one year into his transoformation boy,” the one who had to offer the olive branch to you? Because he’s a better salesman? Get off it.
But what it comes down to, I believe, is self love, and a sense of self worth that grows from that. Who are you and why are you here? Are you here to personally revolutionize the economy from the inside out? To transform humanity? I don’t think so. It’s causing you too much bitterness and anger. “Humans are too stupid and ego based,” you said, in a thread where YOU come across extremely stupid and ego based. People are enslaved, you dick, we’re not fucking stupid. We have no way out. As you are rightly bothered by Robs situation—”it must be nice to have the financial freedom to just drop what you were doing and start a new life or have all the PR money you need”—since you don’t have the freedom to publicize like you want to, but at the same time billions of humans barely have the freedom to even fucking breathe deeply. Rob has that freedom, and you’re angry that he’s not doing what you would do with the money. But most people are trapped, forced to keep a truly shit job because we have to keep a roof because we’ve been trained to be utterly dependent upon jobs and roofs and grocery stores, and you’re angry at us because we aren’t waking up or evolving or whatever it is you want us to do that we obviously aren’t ready to do yet. And then yes, we do all the stupid things americans and humans in general do, because we have to find some way to escape the incredible pain of subsuming our wills to the soul crushing machine. Don’t call me stupid and ego based, you prick, I’m fucking trapped, and it’s killing me, and I’m aware of it, and I hate it, but there are very few options right now, and you’re a piece of shit for not realizing this, you so-called self-dubbed ‘evolved’ being. I know that there are far more options available to people than any of us realize, but if you’ve got $10,000 of your own money to invest in RS then you’re living in a world very different than most people and you’d better shut the fuck up about how stupid we are. Get the fuck off your high horse, you’re not doing ANYone any good up there. We are fucking enslaved down here. It’s not about evolution, it’s about fucking emancipation, you judgmental piece of shit! The machine isn’t going to let anyone off easy, and it’s going to take a hell of a lot more than some south american entheogens to get us free. In fact, this thread has indeed sapped much of my faith in entheogens, as you, a self proclaimed master of them, are even more petty than most people I know. You’re not healed, you’re not evolved, you’re no different than anyone else, well, except in that giant fucking ego. Whew. Bitterness purged.
You’re angry that you’re doing all this work that you consider to be great work, and it’s not being rewarded, or even given what it needs to survive. Fuck it. If it’s dying, it’s dying. And, it IS keeping people in front of their computers, stuck in the virtual world, making connections with ghosts and vapors in far off places. I almost started a spore here in Orlando, and once I started researching I found an actual active community (not like the RS “community”, but actual people, actual friends, living close together, doing actual, important work, locally) already in place here, and so I just left the evolver idea as moot, especially since you want me to do paperwork for it. I guess you don’t realize that what you are implying with this idea is actually something like you want me to start up a spore and then jump in to the local community and offer to take over the local real community because ‘I’m With Evolver and I’m Here to Help! Are you people ready to evolve,’ right? Evolver is for computer junkies. The actual “evolved” (emancipated?) people are already at work in the community, and while they’re a damn sight more understanding than you are, they still aren’t very appreciative of internet junkies coming out and saying “Hey, I know all this stuff, and we should be doing more than what you’re doing since I know more than you since I just sit and read RS all day!” I’m exaggerating missing the point of your work, but I’m doing so to make a point. One, I’m mirroring yourself, and two, I sincerely spent a few hours looking at evolver and didn’t see the value since I couldn’t actually meet people on it, and once I started trying to set something up I realized the arrogance of what I had hoped to do and stopped. There are a lot of people out there who have been doing better work for a long time, and aren’t struggling with the internet consumption that at least a number of your followers are.If it is dying, it is dying because it is not meant to live.
And then the point comes back to the fact that you have to have a grounded self worth. You can’t base your worth on this, or every time you meet an investor who turns you down or turns you away, you’re going to be rejected and hurt, and behave like a whiny child as you have here. I think it’s a problem for the vast majority of people in our culture (and it obviously still is for me as well), where we’ve been forced to behave by societal standards through the constant conditional love of our parents, friends, schools, society, workplaces, editors, etc. Eisenstein describes it far better than I could in this brief space, but I know it’s something I’m dealing with as well. I’m of the fight club sort: I am not my job, my car, my stuff, etc.; but then who am I? “Well I must be my ideas,” I unconsciously said, “and my gifts, and my work.” So then when my ideas, gifts, and work are rejected, I’m rejected, and I end up hurt pretty badly, like you are here. I internalize it more than you do Daniel, you seem to be throwing up your pain onto Rob here, while angrily and arrogantly defending yourself, poorly, but I’m pretty sure we’re both doing the same thing.
Who are you and what are you here for (alive, on earth, on RS, whatever; however you wish to define “here”)? Why the fuck are you doing this work if a) it’s causing you so much stress, and b) you think the human race is about to go through the shredder because they are so stupid and ego based? I mean, it fucking astounds! If you are giving up on the human race, quit this nonsense and go to the hills to pray and meditate on your own self preservation. Stop bothering other people who are trying to do some good and who HAVEN’T given up on humanity with your bitterness and misanthropy. Look inward, Daniel, and there you will find the source of your problems, not in Rob, not in me, not in the economy, not in stupid ego based humanity, not in greedy investors; it’s in you. Rob’s human, yes, and he did mess up, as humans do. But so are, and did, you. And it’s unbelievably disgustingly hypocritical of you to sit here and on the one hand belittle Rob for being so young and infirm in his personal transformation, and on the other to blame this whole thing on him for being the savvy wall street fuck and not a sincere evolver like yourself. If, as you said yourself, it’s your experience that people who are early in their transformation have issues with old habits, then you fucking be understanding of that in him and fucking help him through it, not punch him in the face as soon as he does what you knew he was going to do. Holy shit! Someone has to be the adults here, and I don’t have words, profane or otherwise, to properly emphasize how strenuous I want to say this, it has to be the people who are claiming to already be evolved. It has to be you. It fucking has to be you. You have to be the adult if you’re going to be running a fucking website called Evolver. It has to be you. You have to be the mature and understanding one if you’re going to be running a fucking website called “Reality Sandwich,” where you are implying that you are both already more evolved and already more in touch with Reality since this is what you’ve been eating. It fucking has to be you, and when you pull the shit you, Jonathan, and Ken have done on this thread, you lose all your fucking respect, because you’re no different than a 10 year old.
You have to grow up now. You have to grow up and stop this finger-pointing bullshit and grow the fuck up. Or you have to quit this work. You have to. This isn’t something that can go unaddressed any longer. How long are you into your transformation? Then why are you acting like a snot-nosed kid? You have to either be an adult now, an understanding, loving, mature, adult, looking out upon a sea of brave, wounded, beautiful human children—who are oftentimes hurtful because we are in so much pain—or you have to leave. Period. It doesn’t matter where you go, but you absolutely may not stay here and be the bitter misanthropic fuck you are showing yourself to be!
And Jonathan, after that brilliant piece Treating America’s Psychopathy, where you so incredibly powerfully lay out the importance of acceptance and non-judgment, to see you come into this thread showing your ass and pointing the finger at Rob as you have, and not understanding his needs and fears, was unbelievably disappointing.
And Ken, Seeker34 barely touched upon the idea of the payment of profits. The overarching gist of his comment was how fucking disappointed he is in you three, and I feel the same way. I’m not talking about the money, I’m talking about your responses to the situation. I understand the need for money. What I dont understand is your behavior. You all acted like public school 10 year olds. You have to quit that now. You have to accept responsibility for your childishness, you have to apologize to us, to Rob (and it better be fucking sincere this time Dan, or don’t do it), and you have to take some time to really internalize the magnitude of the public display of arrogance, judgmentalism, egocentrism, and stupidity you have shown.
Or you have to quit.
You don’t get other choices here. It’s gone too far. A few days into it you should have realized your arrogance and your fuck up and come forth appropriately, humbly, and apologetically. That you haven’t and continue to act arrogantly, pettily, and egotistically, is astounding to me. You said all this ugly, petty, childish crap in front of all of us, you have disgraced yourselves, and still you continue to come back in the same manner.
So here I am, laying it all out. I’m humiliating myself, cursing like an angry teenager, coming across far too arrogantly and egotistically, for you, so that you may see just how ugly you have been here. I’m showing my ass so that you may perhaps see just how bare and shit-stained yours are. Go back and reread this entire thread, reread all your comments, with a beginning understanding that they are disgusting and childish to many of your readers. And if it doesn’t humble you, you have to leave. If it doesn’t humble you to the point where you are nearly too embarrassed to show your face again, you haven’t really grasped the magnitude of the situation, and you’d better not come back to this thread, or to RS at all. The next thing out of you three should be internet silence while you puke your guts up out of extreme shame and embarrassment, and then an incredibly humble, gracious, and sincere apology to the readers, the other RS writers whom you have shamed, to Rob and Chimbre, and to the medicine which you have so disrespected.
And to the other readers who I’ve shown my ass to, I am truly sorry. It’s been days in the brewing, I’ve been trying to be forgiving, trying to be understanding, trying to be like Vee Har O., hoping beyond hope that they would see their errs and beg forgiveness, but they haven’t and I needed to get this out. I’m sure it will be a humbling experience for me as well as for the three stooges running this show, as I have said ugly and hateful things, showing my true colors as well, but this had to be said. Hopefully now I can begin to heal.
Oh, and while I’m purging bitterness, Peter Deane, you’re not a shaman. You lived your whole life as a white man and just stumbled upon a long dead conquored ancestor and are now continuing the program of conquest. Stop posting on here as if you are, you are a disgrace to yourself, humanity, the people of the First Nations, and reality sandwich. And please oh please don’t ever pull some shit like that radio show in England where you call yourself a shaman even though you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I realize the hypocrisy when I say you’d better learn some humility, but Peter, humility is one of the central personality traits of the first nations, so please stop talking about things you don’t know about, you too are doing far more harm than good.